Ashes of Creation

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  1. Vanye

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    Friday's stream

    Freehold's look beautiful!! Only showed 2, but you can clearly make your plot of land as unique as you want. No gated community where every house is the same. And having the apartment system on top of open world housing is awesome. I don't think I have seen that done in an MMO since Asheron's Call. Glad to see that coming back.
     
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    I was Backer #291. Going to build a new beast focused on maxing out this game. I'm so hyped I don't even enjoy playing other games right now :/. I'll be in the head-start for AoC, probably focused on crafting to help the guild, but if Tenacious doesn't play AoC I'll be leading a Hired Assassins guild if it's possible in game (It worked in Lineage2).

    BTW, if you plan on registering for AoC don't just go to the site and register, use someones referral link so your friend can get a little money back to put towards their game as well, such as my link below :).

    Register for AoC with my referral here: https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Sojiro1500/
     
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    Still 2 years off from being released, if it is released. Lets see how this game develops. Lots of big talk atm.
     
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    Today's stream with the Predator reveal was awesome! I thought for sure that video was partially CGI but Steve said it was all in-game footage. Lots of great info on the crafting aspect of the game as well.
     
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    its been quite the time since i've made myself known here but i'm also keeping an eye on this mmo, seeing as how for BnS BDO and even rev, i over hyped myself to the point of exhaustion im not going to "jump on the hype train" this time, but will radily admit this is the first "home grown" mmo thats caught my interest in a very long time (newest stream)
     
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    Yeah it is still a couple years til release so a lot can change.


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    Bought into this one as soon as I could . Looking forward to alpha phase 1.
     
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    Was just reading a PC Gamer article that outlines some concerns about the development team. It's a little late, but if you're still borderline on contributing it might be worth giving it a look. While I hope the game works out well, always good to take a look at potential risk.

    http://www.pcgamer.com/ashes-of-creation-kickstarter/
    (website was down for me, here's a cached version in case you have similar issues)
     
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    thanks for the article tart, i personally probably wont fund the game seeing as the last few games i bought into early or even after launch i didnt stick to the way i hoped i would (though i do return to BDO every so often) but i do have hopes that this game becomes what it claims it wants to be
     
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    Newest glimpse into the game uploaded today
     
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    3 hours to go on the kickstarter and it has made over 3.2 million. Most successful MMO kickstarter and one of the top video game kickstarters ever.
     
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    NO FAST TRAVEL! In this video (3:40+) it's explained why they won't have it. Well, I know at least one person who shall go unnamed @Paradigm (snicker) who has always stated that he won't play games "UNLESS" they have "Fast Travel." I don't think listening to what they said about the absence of Fast Travel, that this major point is subject to change, like ever. Just more food for thought! It's been a very long time since I've been in a game with @Paradigm; I think it was Skyfordge actually. So I'm holding back to see (aside from RO) where his boots are likely to land in future games. It is always nice to belong to a gaming community, where you actually fight along side the leader of the community on occassion! ;) The lack of Fast Travel / and NO PORTALS either is going to be a deal breaker for me. I'm spoiled that way and don't mind saying so. I don't have all day to get somewhere, no matter how important it is!
     
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    I have a feeling there will be some form of fast travel, such as when nodes reach metropolis levels, you will be able to travel from one capital to another (but without being able to bring trade goods or something like that so as to not disrupt their trading/economy system). I haven't seen a single game with absolutely zero form of fast travel, even BDO has it in the way of logging out a character and he/she teleports to a city after an hour.

    I'm sure there won't be fast travel like GW2 or WoW. Although even GW2 is leaning away from it with having fewer waypoints per map while also making individual much bigger.

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    I was interested enough to sign up and join the forums, but am not quite ready to donate cash. I'll see how it plays out, but it looks very interesting.
     
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    An hour! That's not fast travel. Fast travel is Aion, click and seconds later you are there. Now, I don't mind being limited at the beginning - more or less being forced to explore regions, but once I've done everything there is to do and have seen everything there is to see, I don't want to spend an hour crossing said region. That same glowing cactus with pretty flowers looks the same at level 50 as it did when I was level 1. I don't want to be forced into looking at and crossing terrain a zillion times over until I want to burn it all to the ground. The ability to skip past one or more regions, then make a modest run to join group, is preferable for me. :)
     
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    Fast travel not existing forces you to interact with the rest of the world. Which I think is a good thing in certain types of games. BDO for example, IMO, is better off for it.

    While it is inconvenient sometimes I prefer traveling the long way and being put in situations that force me to deal with it, like open world PvP.
    If fast travel did exist, I admit that I would abuse the heck out of it because I'm lazy just like everyone else lol. But I think it'd steal a huge part of the game play.

    Some people prefer open world sandbox-y PvP games, and some people prefer the complete opposite.

    Just like fast travel enhances some games, but hinders others.

    In a game like Ashes of Creation if they had a lot of fast travel everywhere I don't think it would work very well... It might even ruin it. From what I understand a big part of the game is to travel through places and explore them so that things grow and build up. Highly populated areas will have more built up and going on. Also, the whole world will be player created - it'd be a shame to not explore it considering we're the ones who built it.

    The game is a loooong way off, if it ever even comes to fruition lol. I'd say give it a chance before writing it off for something like this.

    Interesting discussion though about fast travel.. It makes me think.
    Out of all the MMOs I've played BDO has the least amount of options for fast travel. In addition to what Proof mentioned there is also a guild summon. Loan can summon us to where he is once a day - which we often use to group up for node wars/guild events or we do it weekly for people who want to bring trade packs over the desert. BDO would be a very different game if it had fast travel. It's hard for me to even imagine it.
     
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    Just like @Averie said, I'm also curious as to how everything is implemented for Ashes of Creation. BDO, for example, isn't a game where consistent fast travel is feasible, even if all you consider is the trading aspect. Hell, there's an economy around horses! BDO is one of those games where the game is much better off without it.

    And @Siafu you silly cupcake, I didn't specify that it had to be feasible fast travel, just that it's there! I actually used it quite often to move alts around between Calpheon and Altinova for either knowledge removal or purchasing Grunil armor from the vendor. Take 5 minutes to move a few alts then grind for a bit on the main, or spend 20-30 minutes for each character (or more since I don't believe you can do horse retrieval on a different character). It has its uses!

    In my opinion, a game isn't good or bad depending on fast travel. GW2 is one of my favorite games and I couldn't imagine it without it if you consider how the event system constantly requires you to move from one side of the world to the other instantaneously! But BDO is another favorite of mine as well, and well, you know hahah

    But as of now, I guess you could say I have high hopes... but low expectations of AoC, if that makes any sense at all. But I'm always hopelessly optimistic so whatever heheh

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    Aint nothing wrong with being optimistic so long as you also have realistic expectations! :)
     
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    Preach the WORD sista! Take it to the pulpit!:D
     
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    And it's "Feasible" for me to think that I will be around 55 years old when this game goes live SO something better be FAST because most of me won't be! Cupcake!

    ROFL-LMAO!
     
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    I really agree with this, especially with how Ashes of Creation's possible node system. IMO fast travel in most games takes everyone out of the open world so much it feels like you are playing the game alone practically. You rare run into anyone else in the open world this way. It's one of the reasons I loved playing BDO was the fact that no matter were I went there was always people around, friend or foe, didn't matter because it just brought another element to the game, possible random interactions.
     
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    I'm a little slow finding this thread but Nightcrawlre and myself purchased a founders pack so hope to see a bunch of you in alpha!
     
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    I bought got a founders pack also when it was kick starter ... so see you guys there
     
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    Some nice ideas, the referral program gives me pause, will be hard to trust reviews knowing they stand to make a decent chunk of money for getting people to buy in.

    Will definitely keep an eye out though.
     
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    heh, reminds me of another game that started on kickstarter but remains to be nothing but broken promises and delays...
     
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    Saw this information this morning...as if I wasn't excited enough, this just added a notch to it!
    But now I am not sure if I want to be Mage or Cleric...:(

     
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    No fast travel = no Paradigm ... it's a non negotiable with me. Sure, immersion is good for some people and slow travel forces you to experience the world ... I get it. If that's true for those that don't like fast travel, they should be given the option to not use it ... but slow travel shouldn't be forced on anyone. I think it disregards gamers with families and responsibilities that just want to play the game, not spend their time traveling through it. The adventures take you everywhere you need to go.

    You'll see a lot more of you community and get to experience a lot more of the topography if you walk to work tomorrow. Or walk to California. But you won't. Because you can drive and fly.

    It's a players choice ... but that's the point - it should be the players choice. Immersion can only go so far before it begins to emulate real life, and why on earth would we want to log into a game that emulates real life?

    I think the opposite ... that the idea of 'blinking' or riding an eagle and near instantly being in a far away land in a completely different part of the map only deepens the experience of a 'fantasy' world ... it's magic.

    Anyway, that's just my opinion and my playstyle, but I've always felt pretty strongly about it. I'd love to play BDO ... by all accounts, it's my kind of game and we have an awesome chapter ... but I never gave it a second thought after I found out there was no fast travel.

     
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    But... you'll always be able to fast travel straight to my heart. So it's always available to you, Para.

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    Yeah, well that's just like your opinion, man.
     
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    im interested in the game, but so far the combat is a turn off. We will see what happens!
     
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    So I say about any mmo that isn't bdo.
     
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    Indeed, BDO combat so good.
     
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    I agree, so far, it looks very unrefined. But they are still developing, improving. I do have high hope for this one. The developers are actually on discord, chatting with the community, which I have never really seen before. The concept of creating your own world greatly appeals to me. As for the traveling, not found of walking around all the time, but I am sure with time, they may cater to the lazy ass that I am and provide us with mounts..lol
     
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    There will be mounts. And a little bit of fast travel, but only over a single zone (can't fast travel 10 zones away, but you can fast travel from a city to another part of that cities zone of influence.
     
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    Been watching their PAX streams all weekend. Looks awesome for what little they have to show and the fact that this is only Pre-Alpha. These guys have so much passion for their game.

    Couple things they mentioned in a panel that have never been told before was the name of the world is Verra and their music composer is Bear McCreary. He did the music for Battlestar Galactica, Walking Dead, and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

    Combo system sounds awesome. Not just for combat, but for gathering as well. Spices up the boring auto attacks and auto gathering. Sure, if you want to do it the boring way, you can, but you are going to do less damage and gather less.
     
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    Did the same @Vanye and watching their stream really got me excited for the game...but I am curving my enthusiasm...Was so hyped for Revelation Online, only to be so disappointed in the end. I am so looking forward to start playing Ashes next year. I love their combo system, so far, the combat does look a bit "stiff", but this is pre-Alpha and they are aware of that issue, the world looks amazing and the fact Bear McCreary is composing the music, I know right away I will be listening to the music in game.

    Another thing that really interest me is the combination of classes...and you have a healer that can actually participate as both heals and dps. I am looking forward to the combo trees. Should be very interesting indeed. They also have housing!!!! So yeah, win win for me so far.
     
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    I am not sure i believe that you are not fond of walking all the time.......... i do remember you walking endlessly flipping over every rock (exploring) in GW2.
     
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    Figured you would comment just to bring my clumsiness into this...and it is not called flipping over every rock...it is call "being thorough"...:p
     
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    I'm looking forward to maybe playing it sooner than that (maybe, I don't know for sure).
     

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