A member in mumble was trying to build a house in Sandeep, but Flawless kept killing him while he was near the camp to make packs. About 20 Tenacious(all but 1 were from Genesis) answered the call and we wiped them good.
A member claiming to be an officer started a conversation with us and we let them know that a few of their members PK'd one of ours and this was retaliation. A group of 12 more Flawless then came to Sandeep, well we wiped them too. That's when the officer told us that the 3 people responsible for the PK'ing had been kicked from the guild.
An ally of theirs (Jenny from The Order) started a convo with me asking for a cease fire. Our raid then left Sandeep, but I told her that we couldn't negotiate anything like that and to have her GM contact you. Not sure if any of that happened, but just fyi.
The moral of the story is that Genesis made a guild CRY FOR MERCY!
#CAREBEARSTARE
This is why we have the KOS list. I haven't heard of our members being killed by Flawless Execution since this happened. Now they are friendly with us. Did the fact that we put a beat down on them correct the problem? Who knows, but it did make a statement. I can also tell you that we were pretty careful that night and did not kill any innocent bystanders. This went on for approximately 45 minutes and there were lots of greens from other guilds there that night. At first some of them were running away but then it became obvious to everyone that we were only killing one particular guild. Don't underestimate the statement that made either.
(I would be in favor of taking them off KOS now due to recent developments.)
I worry that KoS lists can become sanctioned griefing. After all, we are a pretty large guild so who knows how many times that person might have been killed in one day?
I do not see this as a problem. Nobody gets on the list who doesn't deserve a taste of their own medicine. You don't get on the list for a single offense (except scammers) it takes repeated offenses in enough of a pattern for us to notice. In other words, actively griefing our guild will get another guild or person on the list.
On another occasion we went to Cinder Stone and farmed Royalty Gaming for several minutes (long enough to push the zone into war so that we could do packs there later) They made sure to tell us how much we sucked when they were dead on the ground. Again, I have not seen or heard much from them since. Either they are avoiding us or perhaps their guild faded away?
This is not something we do often and I don't think we are a griefing guild in any way. I do think that having just a little bit of infamy to our credit is getting us more respect on the server than we would have if we were 100% carebear.